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kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster
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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?

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/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04.1) Linux 2.6.26.7
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Dan C
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:46:58 +0800, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

Quote:
It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?

Works fine here, Win-droid.


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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
Quote:

It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?


Works fine here on multiple architectures as x86_64, Sparc and PowerPC.
Just to be on the safe side download the 2.6.27.4 and compile from a fresh
config instead of reusing your old one.

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

Dan C wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:46:58 +0800, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?

Works fine here, Win-droid.



YOU wouldn't build your own kernel, would you? You are a monk-nun. You
only use conservative debian pkgs.... :)

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

J.O. Aho wrote:
Quote:
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?


Works fine here on multiple architectures as x86_64, Sparc and PowerPC.
Just to be on the safe side download the 2.6.27.4 and compile from a fresh
config instead of reusing your old one.


Your linux hardware?

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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04.1) Linux 2.6.26.7
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Dan C
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:10:41 +0800, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

Quote:
It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?

Works fine here, Win-droid.

YOU wouldn't build your own kernel, would you? You are a monk-nun. You
only use conservative debian pkgs.... Smile

Of course I build my own kernel. I'm rarely more than one release version
behind the current. Looks like I've got one to do today... 2.6.27.4 is
out and I'm still on 2.6.27.3.

As for debian, I wouldn't touch that crap with a 10-foot pole.



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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
Quote:
J.O. Aho wrote:
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?

Works fine here on multiple architectures as x86_64, Sparc and PowerPC.
Just to be on the safe side download the 2.6.27.4 and compile from a fresh
config instead of reusing your old one.


Your linux hardware?

In age order:


1 UltraSparc 10
1 Pegasos G4
2 Asus CrossHair Formula with AMD X4

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Chris Ahlstrom
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

After takin' a swig o' grog, Dan C belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

Quote:
As for debian, I wouldn't touch that crap with a 10-foot pole.

Why? What crap do you run?

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or dogma. It is simply an approach to the problem of telling what is
counterfeit and what is genuine. And a recognition of how costly it may
be to fail to do so. To be a skeptic is to cultivate "street smarts" in
the battle for control of one's own mind, one's own money, one's own
allegiances. To be a skeptic, in short, is to refuse to be a victim.
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Dan C
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:03:58 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

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As for debian, I wouldn't touch that crap with a 10-foot pole.

Why? What crap do you run?

I don't run crap. I run Slackware.

BTW, your sig block is *way* longer than accepted Usenet standards.
Please shorten it.


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Chris Ahlstrom
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

After takin' a swig o' grog, Dan C belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

Quote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:03:58 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

As for debian, I wouldn't touch that crap with a 10-foot pole.

Why? What crap do you run?

I don't run crap. I run Slackware.

That's as crappy as Debian, which is my favorite.

Quote:
BTW, your sig block is *way* longer than accepted Usenet standards.
Please shorten it.

It changes on its own. Sometimes I can be arsed to change it, sometimes
I can't. So sue me.

Quote:
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Jerry McBride
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

J.O. Aho wrote:

Quote:
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

It just could not stay alive for a long time in my legacy P3 700MHz and
Asus CUBX motherboard. What the hell is it doing?


Works fine here on multiple architectures as x86_64, Sparc and PowerPC.
Just to be on the safe side download the 2.6.27.4 and compile from a fresh
config instead of reusing your old one.


Indeed, running 2.6.27.4 on two servers, a desktop and numerous laptops...
Not a hiccup. I do have a few older Compaq laptops that are having issues
with the B43 driver for Broadcom chipsets... However, turning off DMA in
favor of PIO has eliminated the problems.

Can wait for 2.6.28... :')


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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

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Indeed, running 2.6.27.4 on two servers, a desktop and numerous laptops...
Not a hiccup. I do have a few older Compaq laptops that are having issues
with the B43 driver for Broadcom chipsets... However, turning off DMA in
favor of PIO has eliminated the problems.

Hardware configuration of the two servers?

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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04.1) Linux 2.6.26.7
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

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In age order:

1 UltraSparc 10
1 Pegasos G4
2 Asus CrossHair Formula with AMD X4


Your hardware is so much faster than my old P3-700 PC...

I guess legacy hardware should stay with 2.6.26.x kernels until someone
blessed the kernel to support old stuff.... :)

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@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

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I guess legacy hardware should stay with 2.6.26.x kernels until someone
blessed the kernel to support old stuff.... Smile

Or maybe 2.6.28 could sprang over the problems of 2.6.27...

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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.6.27 is a disaster Reply with quote

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
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In age order:

1 UltraSparc 10
1 Pegasos G4
2 Asus CrossHair Formula with AMD X4
Your hardware is so much faster than my old P3-700 PC...

Wouldn't say that the UltraSparc is fast, it's only a 333MHz version,
even if it's 64bit.
The PowerPC and the two AMD machines are a bit faster, forgot my AMD X2
laptop I have.

Quote:
I guess legacy hardware should stay with 2.6.26.x kernels until someone
blessed the kernel to support old stuff.... Smile




I can say I never have had to wait that long, there was one case on the
PowerPC that I had to wait until a x.z.y.Q version was relesed before I
could upgrade safely (the gigabit driver broke). I do suggest you start
with a fresh config and the 2.6.27..4.
Surely it will go well, don't enable too much of the new stuff, try to
be conservative with SLAB/SLUB.


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