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Dr. Deb
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: keyboard Reply with quote

I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it. I am now in the market for a
keyboard, but not just any keyboard.

What I want is a keyboard with programmable keys, BUT I want the keys
programmable on the keyboard and not by some "niffty diffty" driver located
in the computer - for obvious reasons.

Anyone know of one that would meet the above specs?

Thanks

Deb
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Jasen Betts
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

On 2008-11-02, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:
Quote:

I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it. I am now in the market for a
keyboard, but not just any keyboard.

What I want is a keyboard with programmable keys, BUT I want the keys
programmable on the keyboard and not by some "niffty diffty" driver located
in the computer - for obvious reasons.

no obvious. redefining keys in linux is not particularly hard.

Bye.
Jasen
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Auric__
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:56:49 GMT, J.O. Aho wrote:

Quote:
You can always try with the following keyboard, it gives you the
possibility to program the look of the keys:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/

Holy expletive! US$1600+ for a KEYBOARD?!

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And I just cut my lip on it. And chipped a tooth.
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John Hasler
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Dr. Deb wrote:
Quote:
I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it.

Did you try to clean the coffee out of it?
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John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
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Dr. Deb
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

John Hasler wrote:

Quote:
Dr. Deb wrote:
I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it.

Did you try to clean the coffee out of it?

Yeah, and (evidently) got something back wrong and had no output at all. :-(

Deb
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Dr. Deb
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Jasen Betts wrote:

Quote:
On 2008-11-02, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:

I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it. I am now in the market for a
keyboard, but not just any keyboard.

What I want is a keyboard with programmable keys, BUT I want the keys
programmable on the keyboard and not by some "niffty diffty" driver
located in the computer - for obvious reasons.

no obvious. redefining keys in linux is not particularly hard.

Bye.
Jasen


Jasen, would you elaborate please. I am not exactly a newbie but I have not
done a lot of programming.

I have downloaded an app (Keytouch) that is supposed to do that, but it was
not mapped for the G15 and when I tried to map it I ran into two problems.
The program seemed to want to map only existing apps and not macros.

The other problem is that the app identified three keyboard events, when I
did not have the BIOS activate the USB ports. When I activated the USB
ports at Boot, it only identified one event and would not map the keyboard.
Of course, I have to have the keyboard active to be able to manage the
bootloader. So having it inactive, with the G15, is not an option.

Deb
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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Dr. Deb wrote:

Quote:
The other problem is that the app identified three keyboard events, when I
did not have the BIOS activate the USB ports. When I activated the USB
ports at Boot, it only identified one event and would not map the keyboard.
Of course, I have to have the keyboard active to be able to manage the
bootloader. So having it inactive, with the G15, is not an option.

You mean that if you have the keyboard plugged in during boot up you can't use
your desktop environment to catch the keys correctly? Sure it's not a faulty
keyboard?

You can always try with the following keyboard, it gives you the possibility
to program the look of the keys:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/



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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Auric__ wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:56:49 GMT, J.O. Aho wrote:

You can always try with the following keyboard, it gives you the
possibility to program the look of the keys:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/

Holy expletive! US$1600+ for a KEYBOARD?!

It got a lot more expensive than it was originally told to be, it was supposed
to cost as much as a cellphone, which would have landed around US$450, but I
guess those oled screens on each key cost a heck a lot more than the Russians
thought they would. It's my dream keyboard... but I don't expect to own one...


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//Aho
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Jasen Betts
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

On 2008-11-03, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2008-11-02, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:

I had, "had being the operative word, a Focus 8200 keyboard that I dearly
loved. Then I sloshed some coffe on it. I am now in the market for a
keyboard, but not just any keyboard.

What I want is a keyboard with programmable keys, BUT I want the keys
programmable on the keyboard and not by some "niffty diffty" driver
located in the computer - for obvious reasons.

no obvious. redefining keys in linux is not particularly hard.

Jasen, would you elaborate please. I am not exactly a newbie but I have not
done a lot of programming.

actually it's harder than I thought,

in twm it's easy to bind any key on the keyboard do anything.
modern window managers make it harder.

maybe xkbevd can watch for the special keys and somethink like xnee
could then take apropriate action.

Bye.
Jasen
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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Jasen Betts wrote:

Quote:
in twm it's easy to bind any key on the keyboard do anything.
modern window managers make it harder.

Bit off topic, but I have had serious though of going back to ctwm. It does
what is supposed to do and nothing more.


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//Aho
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Florian Diesch
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

Quote:
On 2008-11-03, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2008-11-02, Dr. Deb <dgfreeman@mon-cre.net> wrote:

no obvious. redefining keys in linux is not particularly hard.

Jasen, would you elaborate please. I am not exactly a newbie but I have not
done a lot of programming.

actually it's harder than I thought,

in twm it's easy to bind any key on the keyboard do anything.
modern window managers make it harder.

Not necessary. It's just that for some reasons modern desktop
environments like Gnome and KDE use very simple default window
managers that lack about all but the very basic features.




Florian
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HASM
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> writes:

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Bit off topic, but I have had serious though of going back to ctwm. It
does what is supposed to do and nothing more.

Why not fvwm? I went from twm to tvtwm to ctwm to fvwm, and I'm sticking
with it.

-- HASM
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John Hasler
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

HASM writes:
Quote:
I went from twm to tvtwm to ctwm to fvwm, and I'm sticking with it.

Same here. I have it configured very simply, but it can be made to do
anything you want.
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John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
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J.O. Aho
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

HASM wrote:
Quote:
"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> writes:

Bit off topic, but I have had serious though of going back to ctwm. It
does what is supposed to do and nothing more.

Why not fvwm? I went from twm to tvtwm to ctwm to fvwm, and I'm sticking
with it.

For I'm used to ctwm, as I used it for quite many years and I have a quite
good configuration that I can reuse as soon as I have ctwm installed and
selected it from the session list.


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//Aho
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Hactar
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: keyboard Reply with quote

In article <87k5bigu3e.fsf@thumper.dhh.gt.org>,
John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote:
Quote:
HASM writes:
I went from twm to tvtwm to ctwm to fvwm, and I'm sticking with it.

Same here. I have it configured very simply, but it can be made to do
anything you want.

I used fvwm up to this last upgrade (-> Ubuntu 8.04), when I went to
xfce. I'd used it on my laptop, so it wasn't an unknown. I wanted an
"environment" but not the huge sizes of Gnome or KDE.

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from an open window. Work a little harder on improving your low self
esteem, you stupid freak. -- Weird Al, _Your Horoscope for Today_
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