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Carl Forsland
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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: sound with more than one soundcard |
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Hello!
I have a Debian box with two sound cards. How do i select which card to
use in whatever sound program i might use?
Lets say, record through one card listening to the other, or record
something using both cards.
I wish to migrate from Cubase under DOS to something decent Under Linux.
Regards
Nobody
This below will all play at the first card. I have tried a bundle of
different other flags too.
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp1 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp2 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio1 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio2 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg |
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ArameFarpado
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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Em Sexta, 17 de Outubro de 2008 02:40, Carl Forsland escreveu:
| Quote: | Hello!
I have a Debian box with two sound cards. How do i select which card to
use in whatever sound program i might use?
Lets say, record through one card listening to the other, or record
something using both cards.
that must be set on each individual program that will use the sound cards |
| Quote: | I wish to migrate from Cubase under DOS to something decent Under Linux.
Regards
Nobody
This below will all play at the first card. I have tried a bundle of
different other flags too.
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp1 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp2 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio1 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/audio2 01\ -\ Jerusalem.ogg
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option -o of ogg123:
-o k:v, --device-option k:v
Pass special option 'k' with value 'v' to the
device previously specified with --device. See
the ogg123 man page for available device options.
see
man ogg123, cause this dsp:/dev/dsp2 is not right |
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Carl Forsland
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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| Quote: | option -o of ogg123:
-o k:v, --device-option k:v
Pass special option 'k' with value 'v' to the
device previously specified with --device. See
the ogg123 man page for available device options.
see
man ogg123, cause this dsp:/dev/dsp2 is not right
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This was just hmmm... to illustrate some kind of effort to get some
sound at all. I tried xmms and Totem and ALSAplayer and an ogg
player/ripper too. It only makes sound at the first sound card.
I must have missed something fundamental when i started with computers
back when a hard disk was a stack of 15 inch disks, each disk contained
up to 5 Mbytes and the CPU a couple of MHz, RAM less than 100Kbytes and
no graphic interface. The computer was operated from ascii terminals via
the serial ports. Back then we tried to get the computers to work
automatically as much as possible.
Today i have an elegant pile of junk with tons of RAM and a several GHz
CPU etc... and it comes with a graphic interface.
I thought there was a fairly easy way to make this several thousand
times more effective box do something in a more modern and automatic way
using its elegant graphic interface.
It works under DOS. It should be easier to do under Unix/Linux where a
device driver can be looked upon as a file to be read or written to.
Is it even possible to use some Cubase clone to do hard disk recordings
under Linux? There is excellent recording software under Mac OS X which
is based on Free BSD.
(I have kept two old ASCII terminals for sentimental reasons, should i
try to create an old mainframe of my box? pull out the graphic card and
so on...)
I'm just kidding.
Regards
Nobody |
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Sheridan Hutchinson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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Carl Forsland wrote:
| Quote: | Hello!
I have a Debian box with two sound cards. How do i select which card
to use in whatever sound program i might use?
Lets say, record through one card listening to the other, or record
something using both cards.
I wish to migrate from Cubase under DOS to something decent Under
Linux.
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Hi,
You mention you're using Debian but you've not mentioned which repo
(etch? lenny?), which kernel that you're using, nor which soundcards
you're trying to get to work. Still, I'm going to take a guess.
Not all soundcards have drivers in linux/alsa (very sadly), do drivers
exist for the card in the kernel version you're using?
Have you run installed and run alsaconf? Most systems don't need to run
this but with two cards you might need to do this; try this first.
If you physically pull or disable in the BIOS (onboard?) the soundcard
that's working, does the second card starting working?
If you're using the 'stable' version of Debian, are you using the
standard 2.6.18 kernel or have you upgraded to the 2.6.24 kernel within
the repository? If not, upgrade the kernel and try again. You'll find
the new kernel called something like 'Etch n' a half'.
I'm sorry your experience isn't as automatic as you felt it to be and I
share your sentiments in this respect.
--
Regards,
Sheridan Hutchinson
sheridan@shezza.org |
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Clemens Ladisch
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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Carl Forsland wrote:
| Quote: | I have a Debian box with two sound cards. How do i select which card to
use in whatever sound program i might use?
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That depends on the program.
Desktop environments like KDE or Gnome should have a list of sound cards
somewhere in their configuration, but this will only affect KDE/Gnome
programs.
In programs that use the OSS interface, change the device name from
"/dev/dsp" to "/dev/dsp1" or some other number.
In programs that use the ALSA interface, change the device name from
"default" to "default:1", or from "plughw:0,x" to "plughw:1,x".
| Quote: | This below will all play at the first card.
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
ogg123 -o dsp:/dev/dsp1 07\ -\ Miwa.ogg
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This should work if ogg123 is configured to use OSS by default, but it's
likely that the default is ALSA, so the option to use would be
"-o card:1".
HTH
Clemens |
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Sylvain Robitaille
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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Carl Forsland wrote:
| Quote: | Is it even possible to use some Cubase clone to do hard disk recordings
under Linux? ...
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Look at http://www.ardour.org/ I think you'll find the software you're
after. (though to call it a "Cubase clone" would be to short-change
it indeed; at worst, it's mostly a ProTools clone, while at best it's
a nicely featured DAW software package in its own right.)
It depends on JACK to connect to your sound hardware, though, and there
is presently (as I understand it) no reliable way to make JACK work with
multiple soundcards. That said, search around, because I've seen (though
not tried) sample configs where folks create a "virtual sound device"
that contains multiple sound cards and apparently get JACK (and thus JACK
applications) to access multiple sound interfaces simultaneously that way.
I hope this helps ...
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Sylvain Robitaille syl@alcor.concordia.ca
Network and Systems analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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terryc
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:10:54 +0200, Carl Forsland wrote:
| Quote: | This was just hmmm... to illustrate some kind of effort to get some sound
at all. I tried xmms and Totem and ALSAplayer and an ogg player/ripper
too. It only makes sound at the first sound card.
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often /dev/dsp is a soft link to /dev/dsp1 and it is the same for mixer,
etc.
ls -ld /dev/dsp* ???
anything in dmesg?
| Quote: | Back then we tried to get the computers to work
automatically as much as possible.
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True, but they usually only did one task at a time.
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Today i have an elegant pile of junk with tons of RAM and a several GHz
CPU etc... and it comes with a graphic interface.
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ROFPMP.
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I thought there was a fairly easy way to make this several thousand
times more effective box do something in a more modern and automatic way
using its elegant graphic interface.
It works under DOS. It should be easier to do under Unix/Linux where a
device driver can be looked upon as a file to be read or written to.
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The fact thatis works under DOS is a bit worrying. what cards are
involved? DOS has proprietary drivers written for each card.
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Is it even possible to use some Cubase clone to do hard disk recordings
under Linux? There is excellent recording software under Mac OS X which
is based on Free BSD.
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what is Cubase exactly?
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(I have kept two old ASCII terminals for sentimental reasons, should i
try to create an old mainframe of my box? pull out the graphic card and
so on...)
I'm just kidding.
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ASCII terminals are very hany for techos who need to do fundamental
configs of various boxen,
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Carl Forsland
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: sound with more than one soundcard |
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You mention you're using Debian but you've not mentioned which repo
(etch? lenny?), which kernel that you're using, nor which soundcards
you're trying to get to work. Still, I'm going to take a guess.
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I use Etch. Tried with the shipping kernel. Now i run kernel 2.6.27.2.
| Quote: | Not all soundcards have drivers in linux/alsa (very sadly), do drivers
exist for the card in the kernel version you're using?
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Think so, SBLive or emu10k1 and an onboard via82xx card.
| Quote: | Have you run installed and run alsaconf? Most systems don't need to run
this but with two cards you might need to do this; try this first.
If you physically pull or disable in the BIOS (onboard?) the soundcard
that's working, does the second card starting working?
If you're using the 'stable' version of Debian, are you using the
standard 2.6.18 kernel or have you upgraded to the 2.6.24 kernel within
the repository? If not, upgrade the kernel and try again. You'll find
the new kernel called something like 'Etch n' a half'.
I'm sorry your experience isn't as automatic as you felt it to be and I
share your sentiments in this respect.
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At the time around kernel 2.4 (might be 2.2?) i tried some early version
of muse with some softsynth and a keyboard and low latency. Midi players
and sequencers worked too. The cards was sblive 5.1 and some old
half-duplex isa soundblaster card. It was possible to play or record
with both cards.
Now i can play sound files from the sblive card.
Recording, playing midifiles, connect a keyboard and such things doesn't
work. |
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