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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Struggling to find useable file download capability |
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All you're trying to do is ftp, right?
Try GFTP. Should be installed by default as long as you installed Gnome.
There are settings for retrying a site till you connect. I like it a lot,
download lots of stuff from busy sutes (like RedHat ISO's ;->).
--Keith
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YES! Looks very good. Will give it a try for my next big download.
Thank you. (I knew it had to be something obvious/simple.  |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:59 am Post subject: Re: CD audio (update) |
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I think you're expecting linux to be easy, which it is not, and that's the
point of linux IMO - you have to work at getting it set the way you want it
to be setup but at least it allows you to do this your way, and it also
teaches you how computers and an operating system work together.
As for the problem with your CD - in the sound control panel make sure you
have 4-channel or 5.1 surround sound selected for your speaker configuration
in Windows.
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c p u s a D O T o r g" <averagejoe@mysolution.ws> wrote in message
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| Quote: | redhat 9, standard workstation install, with all RHN updates, emachines
t1140 computer, with only Netgear FA311 10/100 NIC hardware addition, and
removal of 56K modem that came from factory
okay, I found my CD did not have the audio cable connected to the
motherboard, in fact it had no cable at all, and in fact, the motherboard
had no place for a cable (integrated lowend emachines system, t1140)
now, what I did was install a Sound Blaster Live card, my cousin had
laying around, and connected the card to the CD with the audio cable
now, the new hardware was recognized on boot, it uninstalled my onboard
sound, and installed the new sound card (which was detected as Ensoniq
5880 Audio PCI es1371)
now, with the onboard card, I could get system sounds, but now no system
sounds
and with Windows, the cable was not neccesary at all, for CD playing or
system sounds
the CD player recognizes the disk and starts playing it, but the sound
doesn't come out, just like with the onboard audio, without the cable
I did disable the onboard audio, in the system bios, after I saw it wasn;t
working, and such made no difference
now, I noticed the soundblaster live only supported amplified speakers, so
I happened to have a set (with subwoofer), so I connected that
and sound worked, except only the left channel works, the right channel
and subwoofer do not work, the right speaker is the hub where they are
connected
now, I don't know if this is a speaker problem, because I have never
tested these speakers
I have went into the volume control and adjusted the right channel volume,
but nothing works
replaced the speakers with another set, and it works
now, I guess I will complain a little since Windows didn't need the cable
from the CD, and if such an architecture exists within the x86 domain, the
Linux should support it, because emachines is a very popular inexpensive
computer, and saving money is part of linux mentality
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Bill Zhao
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:45 am Post subject: Re: ---mozilla's flash plugin |
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Yes, I got the plugin from there.
I just did redownload it and installed it using the install shell script
but the probem is still there.
Bill Zhao
Vwakes ??:
| Quote: | On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 Bill Zhao wrote:
I just installed the micromedia flash plugin. but it does not work
for the webpage.
Did you get the plugin from here?
http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash
By the way what I opened is Simplified Chinese webpage The result is
mozilla exit quickly during its opening the page.
It would be better to post the link thats causing the problem, so that
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Vwakes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: ---mozilla's flash plugin |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 Bill Zhao wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, I got the plugin from there. I just did redownload it and
installed it using the install shell script but the probem is still
there.
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Can you post the link under question? Does it open well in other
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c1rcu1t
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: IPSEC VPN: How-to? |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:10:57 -0400, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:
| Quote: | I am currently using SafeNet/Soft-PK VPN software to login to my corporate
network using my Windows 2000 machine.
This involves loading a personal certificate, a security policy, a CA cert
and another .p12 or .pem file, not sure.
I just 'activate security policy', ping the corporate gateway and a
username/password dialog box pops up. the password uses a SecurID token in
addition to my personal password.
Is it possible to use the same setup on my RH9 machine? Ideally my VPN
admins wouldnt have to change anything on their side.
I would just want to use some VPN client on Linux, import the certs,
security policy, etc, like I do in Windows 2000 and use my VPN.
How can I do this? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
[Sorry for the cross-posting, I am not sure which newsgroup this is
appropriate for]
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FreeSwan can do this.. You might want to make sure if they are using l2tp
with the IPSEC.. most w2k machine do... |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Ethernet card not recognized |
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RodgerH wrote:
| Quote: | tns1 wrote:
After installing RH8 on a PII machine, I discovered that the OS is
completely unaware of the ethernet card. Under windows, this card is
identified as an Ausus/Novell NE2000 compatible. The card itself has no
logo or company markings I can see. The large chip says P/N
181025183760, which does not mean anything to me. The card is ISA rather
than PCI with both 10BaseT and Coax jacks, so it is a bit old, but hey
so is Linux.
I tried selecting a couple of different card options under the Network
Device Control dialog, such as NE2000 compatible, and whatever was
listed under Novell, but I get "can not activate" when I hit the
activate button. I have no problem spending the $12 on a new card, but
right now the store is further away than the Internet. Any ideas?
The best thing anyone can tell you is to replace this and any other ISA
cards you may still have with PCI cards. ISA cards are hard to use in
Linux, in general, and the ISA spec has been dead since 1995.
~Rodger
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A got a new PCI card ($15 COMPUSA RTL8139 based), which was autodetected
by RH. I now have lots of info on how to make the old card work if I
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Vikas Agnihotri
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: IPSEC VPN: How-to? |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:10:06 GMT, c1rcu1t <spam@spamgohere.com> wrote:
| Quote: | FreeSwan can do this.. You might want to make sure if they are using
l2tp
with the IPSEC.. most w2k machine do...
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I read the docs on freeswan, l2tp, etc, but the problem seems to be that
none of these support the SecurID user authentication that my VPN uses.
Currently, I use SafeNet/Soft-PK software on Windows 2000 to connect to the
VPN. As part of the authentication process (Phase 1), it pops up a dialog
box for my username. My password is my actual password and then I append
the 6-digit number on my SecurID token.
How can I do this on Linux?
Or is there a way I can use my Windows 2000 box as a "stepping stone" to my
VPN?
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Joe Beanfish
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: NFS Crashes LTSP and NFS Servers and Corrupts Data! Need |
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:18:39 -0700, Patch wrote:
"root" <root@jonspc.jonspc> wrote in message
news:<pan.2003.06.14.14.48.49.369661@jonspc.jonspc>...
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:24:21 +0000, Fanying Jen wrote:
I am a senior system administrator at Lille Corp whom provides thin
client (LTSP or Linux Terminal Server Project) Linux solutions to the
medical industry. We have a very serious problem with the reliability
of NFS over both Fast Ethernet (100BaseT) and WANs including T1s
point to point, and IPSEC VPNs where the other node is on business
cable modem. The customer is a mid size medical assoicate with over
three hundred staff members and two hundred terminals and PC, mostly
Linux spread over three states.
There are two major problems with NFS. One is NFS crashing the entire
three hundred person organization in one swoop and bringing it to a
grinding halt in front of users and the patients (customers of the
customer) which is not good particularily since Linux is branded to
be more stable.
The other major problem is when NFS is not crashing systems, it
looses data particularily with OpenOffice costing many man hours of
work. In addition, even simple commands like "ls" have trouble
displaying the entire directory and users sometimes get into a stale
lock as well.
I will provide the network topology along with the system specs,
configuration, and the software components.
Network Topology
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NFS Problem 1 (Crashing)
The LTSP would create stale locks and eventually the LTSP server
crashes. Furthermore, data is corrupted during the process.
NFS Problem 2 (Corruption)
This happens mostly in OpenOffice, more than once, data gets
corrupted and when working with both Microsoft and native OpenOffice
formats. On full local workstations where the files are save to the
local disk, this does not happen. The office docuements are normally
saved to an NFS filesystem.
NFS Problem 3 (Performance)
NFS is very slow over T1 and cable links but is just fine on the
Local Fast Ethernet. It is slow enough to either knock people off or
cause write errors. We are thinking the hubs play a major role and
are replacing with high end managed switches. However we believe that
there is more than meets the eye and the T1 also has something to do
with.
Summary
Those are the problems and I give as much information as I possibly
can. I would be appreciate if anyone can point us in the right
direction. We commercial organization and our customer are also
commercial and we all want Linux to success not only on the server
but also on the desktop. This customer is one of the boldest I have
seen in the embracing of Linux on the desktop and we want them to
success to the fullest, therefore we are asking for your assistance
so we can do what many people say you can't, make money with Linux!
Thank you and Sincerely,
Fanying Jen
Senior System Administration
Lille Corp.
[Why are you running a UDP LAN network on a WAN then looking suprised
when it doesnt work. NFS is not suitable for WAN based applications,
the linux version of NFS isnt even as "not good" as Suns NFS.
You could try an IP socket implementation of NFS (They do exist) or a
better solution is to use SMB instead. SMB is not a sexy network
protocol, but it is session based and doesn't pretend to be stateless.
Linux works with smb in the same way as NFS so you can put the mounts
into fstab, the only difference is the server needs the shares defined
in smb.conf not /etc/exports. It only uses a couple of sockets (the
problem with NFS is it negetioates a socket (UDP) using portmap, makes
firewalls fun - might be part of your problem infact)
NFS has many many defects for WANS - it expects full duplex (talk and
listen at the same time). It uses UDP and doesn't retry fails with 100%
accuracy. It uses very large frames, useless for WANS. It dynamically
negetioates UDP sockets with portmap - if the negetiate fails, it runs
badely and takes an age to connect.
Point 2 is TESTS !!!! Write a "copy to server copy back to host file
compare" script and run it for days. Typically this will move a few
hundred MB from point A to B then back to A - when it arrives back at A
compare the file with the original.
Jon
First NFS is not UDP based, it runs over either TCP or UDP.
A quote from suns NFS description
NFS originated from Sun Microsystems. The details of Sun RPC Version 2 can
be found in RFC 1057 and consists of two flavors. The first is built using
the sockets API and works with TCP or UDP. The other, transport
independent (TI- RPC), is built using the TLI API and works with any
transport layer. The most popular RPC implementation today is built using
the sockets API with UDP.
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Perhaps, but since we're talking about linux here perhaps the linux man
page would be more applicable:
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tcp Mount the NFS filesystem using the TCP pro
tocol instead of the default UDP protocol.
Many NFS severs only support UDP.
udp Mount the NFS filesystem using the UDP pro
tocol. This is the default.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: which desktop |
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Average Joe Common Bloke Regular Guy Median Civilian Member of w w w D O T
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| Quote: | On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 03:44:40 +0000, Michael wrote:
slllllooooower
I think linux needs more speed too
I am running a 1.1Ghz Celeron with 256MB RAM (emachines t1140) and gnome
isn't as perky as I would like, and sometimes I encounter what I believe
to be a memory leak, and the systems starts to crawl (usually when running
mozilla and pan and gaim) and I have to reboot
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Not necessarily a memory leak. Linux and xwindows want to keep things
in memory that are used by programs. This explains why, after the first
time loading kmail or evolution, for example, the second and following
times it loads, it loads faster. This is assuming you haven't rebooted the
system or stopped xwindows.
System speed is based on many things. Memory may be used up by
unneeded services you have running. Your celeron isn't the fastest
processor as well (and celerons are usually stripped-down versions of
pentiums, i.e. lacking the extra SIMD extensions or other enhancements that
make pentiums fast). Gnome is also not a small desktop by any means: if
you want a lighter, faster desktop, get blackbox / enlightenment /
windowmaker. Features take up memory, ya know...
The crawling probably happens when physical RAM is used up and the
system must go to virtual memory (swap file, etc whatever you call it) to
get more RAM. It starts using the hard drive as memory. To prevent that,
install more system RAM. There is no such thing as too much ram (but there
is such a thing as too much swap).
And, like I said, there could be many reasons. Slow devices (latency),
a poor graphics card (or a monitor with a slow refresh rate), slow hard
drives, etc all contribute to the equation.
For further advice from the group on making your system lighter and
faster, I suggest starting a thread about it.
--
" ... and are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights ... "
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craig
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: Re: smbmount: Mounting same share on same mountpoint twice? |
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Vikas Agnihotri <fornewsgroups@vikas.mailshell.com> wrote in message news:<oprq76fgfi3k814u@news.fu-berlin.de>...
| Quote: | smbmount //server/share mountpoint -o ...
I ran this command once, got my smbfs mount, fine.
Later, during search of shell history, I hit enter by mistake on this
command line again. I thought I would get 'mount point in use' or something
like I get on other Unixes.
But, to my amazement, it proceeded to mount the same resource on the same
mountpoint again!
Now, when I try to 'umount mountpoint', I get
umount: it seems that ... is mounted multiple times!
Well, of course it is, thats why I am trying to umount one of them, but how
can I tell the kernel which one!
Questions:
1. What possible reason in the world could there be to allow the same
resource to be mounted twice on the same mountpoint?
2. How can I unmount one of them?
3. I tried logging out and logging back in, but both mounts came back! How
is this done? I didnt make any entries in /etc/fstab, this is plain user-
level mount, root not involved, so shouldnt the mounts go away when I
logout/login?
Thanks
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I've no idea why this happens, but I had the same thing. I also got
the message you describe, but I found that regardless, the 'umount
mountpoint' had unmounted one of them (as shown by a 'mount'). So then
I just issued 'umount mountpoint' again and that was it totally
unmounted.
Does this not work for you ?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Moving/Remounting /usr/local |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:56:03 +1000, Rohan Parkes wrote:
| Quote: | I'd like to move /usr/local to its own partition, since it contains
stand-alone apps like the Java SDK that I want to preserve if
re-installing.
I tried to mount it on its own partition during the last install using
Disk Druid, but it didn't work - perhaps I did something wrong. (I tried to
mount /usr/src as well, without success).
I'm thinking I could accomplish this by:
1. Making a new partition (which I would do using a third-party
tool like Partition Magic).
2. Temporarily mounting it and moving everything under /usr/local onto it
(but leaving the directory /usr/local on /usr as the mount point).
3.Adding the partition to fstab. Since fstab uses labels, I suppose I
could use "LABEL=/local /usr/local", if I label the partition "local".
Of course, if I can't remount this partition during re-installing, it might not
be of much help.
So what I need to know is, is the above scenario correct, and is it
possible to mount sub-directories during install?
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HUH?
I followed you to a point. First of all, I would init 1 do go into single
user mode just to be safe.
1. Create a new partition, for sake of this conversation, lets assume it
is the third partition created in the extended partition of the primary
master hard drive. This would give it a linux name of hda7.
2. Create a filesystem on that drive. So extending our example, you would
issue the following command:
# mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hda7
3. Now, you need to create a location to mount the partition to
temporarily, I will use /mnt/usrlocal
# mkdir /mnt/usrlocal
4. Mount this partition temporarily to the new mountpoint
# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda7 /mnt/usrlocal
5. now you have both locations active, move all your data from /usr/local
to /mnt/usrlocal
# mv /usr/local/* /mnt/usrlocal
6. In the home strech now. Edit your /etc/vfstab file to mount the new
directory in place. When you moved the files from /usr/local you left the
directory, this will give your mount point. You will add a line in your
vfstab file that looks like:
/dev/hda7 /usr/local ext3 notail 1 2
7. You can now unmount the temporary location
# umount /mnt/usrlocal
8. And finally, delete the temporary mountpoint
# rmdir /mnt/usrlocal
Now reboot, you should be running with /usr/local in the new partition,
without a problem. I may have a few of the options a little off, I am
trying to use my system as a reference, and I use reiser instead of ext3.
So my references may be a little off, but the procedure is correct.
HTH
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: NFS Crashes LTSP and NFS Servers and Corrupts Data! Need |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:45:22 -0400, Joe Beanfish wrote:
| Quote: | root wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:18:39 -0700, Patch wrote:
"root" <root@jonspc.jonspc> wrote in message
news:<pan.2003.06.14.14.48.49.369661@jonspc.jonspc>...
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:24:21 +0000, Fanying Jen wrote:
I am a senior system administrator at Lille Corp whom provides
thin client (LTSP or Linux Terminal Server Project) Linux
solutions to the medical industry. We have a very serious problem
with the reliability of NFS over both Fast Ethernet (100BaseT) and
WANs including T1s point to point, and IPSEC VPNs where the other
node is on business cable modem. The customer is a mid size
medical assoicate with over three hundred staff members and two
hundred terminals and PC, mostly Linux spread over three states.
There are two major problems with NFS. One is NFS crashing the
entire three hundred person organization in one swoop and bringing
it to a grinding halt in front of users and the patients
(customers of the customer) which is not good particularily since
Linux is branded to be more stable.
The other major problem is when NFS is not crashing systems, it
looses data particularily with OpenOffice costing many man hours
of work. In addition, even simple commands like "ls" have trouble
displaying the entire directory and users sometimes get into a
stale lock as well.
I will provide the network topology along with the system specs,
configuration, and the software components.
Network Topology
...
... (text removed)
...
NFS Problem 1 (Crashing)
The LTSP would create stale locks and eventually the LTSP server
crashes. Furthermore, data is corrupted during the process.
NFS Problem 2 (Corruption)
This happens mostly in OpenOffice, more than once, data gets
corrupted and when working with both Microsoft and native
OpenOffice formats. On full local workstations where the files are
save to the local disk, this does not happen. The office
docuements are normally saved to an NFS filesystem.
NFS Problem 3 (Performance)
NFS is very slow over T1 and cable links but is just fine on the
Local Fast Ethernet. It is slow enough to either knock people off
or cause write errors. We are thinking the hubs play a major role
and are replacing with high end managed switches. However we
believe that there is more than meets the eye and the T1 also has
something to do with.
Summary
Those are the problems and I give as much information as I
possibly can. I would be appreciate if anyone can point us in the
right direction. We commercial organization and our customer are
also commercial and we all want Linux to success not only on the
server but also on the desktop. This customer is one of the
boldest I have seen in the embracing of Linux on the desktop and
we want them to success to the fullest, therefore we are asking
for your assistance so we can do what many people say you can't,
make money with Linux!
Thank you and Sincerely,
Fanying Jen
Senior System Administration
Lille Corp.
[Why are you running a UDP LAN network on a WAN then looking
suprised when it doesnt work. NFS is not suitable for WAN based
applications, the linux version of NFS isnt even as "not good" as
Suns NFS.
You could try an IP socket implementation of NFS (They do exist) or
a better solution is to use SMB instead. SMB is not a sexy network
protocol, but it is session based and doesn't pretend to be
stateless. Linux works with smb in the same way as NFS so you can
put the mounts into fstab, the only difference is the server needs
the shares defined in smb.conf not /etc/exports. It only uses a
couple of sockets (the problem with NFS is it negetioates a socket
(UDP) using portmap, makes firewalls fun - might be part of your
problem infact)
NFS has many many defects for WANS - it expects full duplex (talk
and listen at the same time). It uses UDP and doesn't retry fails
with 100% accuracy. It uses very large frames, useless for WANS. It
dynamically negetioates UDP sockets with portmap - if the negetiate
fails, it runs badely and takes an age to connect.
Point 2 is TESTS !!!! Write a "copy to server copy back to host
file compare" script and run it for days. Typically this will move a
few hundred MB from point A to B then back to A - when it arrives
back at A compare the file with the original.
Jon
First NFS is not UDP based, it runs over either TCP or UDP.
A quote from suns NFS description
NFS originated from Sun Microsystems. The details of Sun RPC Version 2
can be found in RFC 1057 and consists of two flavors. The first is
built using the sockets API and works with TCP or UDP. The other,
transport independent (TI- RPC), is built using the TLI API and works
with any transport layer. The most popular RPC implementation today is
built using the sockets API with UDP.
Perhaps, but since we're talking about linux here perhaps the linux man
page would be more applicable:
...
tcp Mount the NFS filesystem using the TCP pro
tocol instead of the default UDP protocol. Many
NFS severs only support UDP.
udp Mount the NFS filesystem using the UDP pro
tocol. This is the default.
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And we swing back round to "You could try an IP socket implimentation of
NFS" I wasnt aware it was built in.
Assuming hes using the defaults then he is running with UDP - so I fail to
see why you chose to pick holes in my comments ?
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Freak. You seriously need to stop doing drugs.
Average Joe Common Bloke Regular Guy Median Civilian Member of w w w D O T c p u s a D O T o r g wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:04:01 +1000, paulh wrote:
I agree. Sure Linux isn't easy at all compared to Windows for many users. But if
you're expectations are startign high on this being easy and simple to use then
you're bound for a fair degree of dissapointment. Altho full marks for solving
the issue... wasn't that satisfying?
you do realize that feedback is part of the development process?
I am VERY open system, and open source, and socialized softare
I am a communist
I believe in RED-hat Linux approaches, and ALL RED approaches
but I am more of a Leninist, than a Stalinist
customer feedback, and demand feedback, is simply the ONLY input to
CUSTOMER REQUIREMENTS and SYSTEM PERFORMANCE
so, I am VERY sincere in my critique, in hopes the RED-hat and otheres do
suceed
and if you have some cynicism about this, see my website
http://www.mysolution.ws
or ask why I am using RED-hat now
Communism is all about "The People", and not about kissing Linus Torvalds
ass, now Linux deserves respect for his selfless contribution to society,
and I use Linus merely as an example, products and systems must be
customer driven, and I am a customer< and I drive by critique
capice?
--
T H E E s o l u t i o n t o t h e w o r l d ' s p r o b l e m s ?
w w w D O T m y s o l u t i o n D O T w s
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: CD audio (update) |
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Bahahahhhaaaa. I wish I would have seen your little webpage prior to
initally replying. Had I done that, I wouldn't have wasted my time trying to
help you out, as I see now you're one of those guys that thinks he's got it
all figured out, and that the rest of society is all wrong.
Sure - you're right.
Wacko.
"Average Joe Common Bloke Regular Guy Median Civilian Member of w w w D O T
c p u s a D O T o r g" <averagejoe@mysolution.ws> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:04:01 +1000, paulh wrote:
I agree. Sure Linux isn't easy at all compared to Windows for many
users. But if
you're expectations are startign high on this being easy and simple to
use then
you're bound for a fair degree of dissapointment. Altho full marks for
solving
the issue... wasn't that satisfying?
you do realize that feedback is part of the development process?
I am VERY open system, and open source, and socialized softare
I am a communist
I believe in RED-hat Linux approaches, and ALL RED approaches
but I am more of a Leninist, than a Stalinist
customer feedback, and demand feedback, is simply the ONLY input to
CUSTOMER REQUIREMENTS and SYSTEM PERFORMANCE
so, I am VERY sincere in my critique, in hopes the RED-hat and otheres do
suceed
and if you have some cynicism about this, see my website
http://www.mysolution.ws
or ask why I am using RED-hat now
Communism is all about "The People", and not about kissing Linus Torvalds
ass, now Linux deserves respect for his selfless contribution to society,
and I use Linus merely as an example, products and systems must be
customer driven, and I am a customer< and I drive by critique
capice?
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