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Ver 12.1 Libraries
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Edwin Johnson
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

I just downloaded the first 4 CDs of the 6-CD set for Slackware 12.1. I've
used Slackware for many years and have been running the 10.0 distribution
with 2.4.26 kernel for several years on my Panasonic CF-45 with 450mHz
processor.

I had an extra 5gig hd and decided, just for fun, to install the 12.1 on it,
omitting the KDE stuff (I use fvwm) to reduce size. As in the past, the most
difficult part is importing old libraries into the new version to retain the
ability to run older, favorite programs which may not be available now or
whose version I like better. This went fine, albeit taking some time.

Now regarding the question: I installed many of the familiar, nice
applications which come the distribution, such as apache, sane, gimp, and
firefox. I had not installed some of the libraries from the 'l' directory,
but in desperation in the end installed them all.

The apache httpd demon refused to work, looking for two libraries -
libldap~~ and liblber~~ and my search never found them on the distribution
disks. Also, gimp, even though the ldd listing of required and found
libraries showed nothing amiss, would not work, giving another error which I
don't remember just now.

Incidentally, the ethernet wireless card and sound, using alsa, seemed to
work just fine, so no other problems. This was not to be a working copy
since the reduced space on the hd, but thought I might store, in sections,
the completed distribution in tar/zipped format on a CD for future use. As
it appears, I'm not gaining anything just now unless being able to build
newer programs with the newer gcc packages, so am continuing on with the 10.0.

So the question is, have there been any reports of missing libraries from
this distribution for some of the applications or have any others
encountered similar problems. I would think each app would be checked before
the distribution is released.

Thanks for any input on this.

....Edwin
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Sylvain Robitaille
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

Robby Workman wrote:

Quote:
A full Slackware installation satisfies all dependencies of all parts
of the installation.

True, though one does not need to do a full Slackware installation to
get a perfectly working Slackware system. However, if one chooses to
perform a selective installation, as the OP in this case has done, either
to conserve storage space, or for any other reason, and some parts of
the system fail to function as expected, one should look first at the
packages that were not installed, rather than wonder if the there is a
problem with the OS distribution ...

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Faculty of Engineering and Computer Science Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Davide Bianchi
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

On 2008-11-14, Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:
The apache httpd demon refused to work, looking for two libraries -
libldap~~ and liblber~~

Those are used if you activate the mod_authz_ldap and
mod_authz_bdb (or similar), disable them and you should be ok.
Otherwise you need ldap and bdb too.

Davide

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"Check the source" with an expression suggesting I _really_ said "Shove
a weasel up your ass." --crawford
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Eef Hartman
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:
The apache httpd demon refused to work, looking for two libraries -
libldap~~ and liblber~~ and my search never found them on the distribution

Both of those are included in the package "openldap-client", which is
in the "n" fileset.

Quote:
So the question is, have there been any reports of missing libraries from
this distribution for some of the applications or have any others
encountered similar problems. I would think each app would be checked before
the distribution is released.

With "bzgrep" you can lookup any file IN the distribution (slackware
part only, not extra etc) in the MANIFEST.bz2 file which is IN that
slackware subdirectory.

I think most of the other subtrees have their own MANIFEST files,
at least "pasture" and "extra" do.
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Robby Workman
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

On 2008-11-14, Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:

So the question is, have there been any reports of missing libraries from
this distribution for some of the applications or have any others
encountered similar problems. I would think each app would be checked before
the distribution is released.


No, there are no "missing libraries" in the context of your question [1].
A full Slackware installation satisfies all dependencies of all parts of
the installation.

[1] Many people have noticed that Zenmap (a gui frontend to nmap) does not
work in 12.1, but this is because it's hardcoded to expect a python
version compiled with sqlite support. It's not something that Slackware
caused to happen - it was included with the upstream source tarball.
This is remedied in the -current development branch of Slackware, as
sqlite is now included and python is built with it.

-RW
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Mike Spencer
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> quoth:

Quote:
As in the past, the most difficult part is importing old libraries
into the new version to retain the ability to run older, favorite
programs which may not be available now or whose version I like
better. This went fine, albeit taking some time.

Not for me. I have an old app [1] working fine under Slak 10.1. Under
12.1, it reports (and ldd confirms) that libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is
missing.

On the 10.1 machine, libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is a symlink to
libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so, which is also missing from 12.1.

Copying libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so over to the 12.1 machine,
creating the symlink, editing /etc/ld.so.conf to match the one on the
working 10.1 box and running ldconfig, the old app then segfaults.

I looks like I may have similar problems getting Maple V working but
the 12.1 install project is on the back burner while I do more
important stuff.

Further discussion of older apps and libs welcome, though.

- Mike



[1] Old app: Netscape Navigator 4.76

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Robby Workman
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

On 2008-11-14, Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
Quote:
Robby Workman wrote:

A full Slackware installation satisfies all dependencies of all parts
of the installation.

True, though one does not need to do a full Slackware installation to
get a perfectly working Slackware system. However, if one chooses to
perform a selective installation, as the OP in this case has done, either
to conserve storage space, or for any other reason, and some parts of
the system fail to function as expected, one should look first at the
packages that were not installed, rather than wonder if the there is a
problem with the OS distribution ...


and that was my point :-)

-RW
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Edwin Johnson
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Ver 12.1 Libraries Reply with quote

On 2008-11-14, Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@math.tudelft.nl> wrote:
Quote:
Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The apache httpd demon refused to work, looking for two libraries -
libldap~~ and liblber~~ and my search never found them on the distribution

Both of those are included in the package "openldap-client", which is
in the "n" fileset.

With "bzgrep" you can lookup any file IN the distribution (slackware
part only, not extra etc) in the MANIFEST.bz2 file which is IN that
slackware subdirectory.
A full Slackware installation satisfies all dependencies of all parts
of the installation.

First, thanks to all of you who responded.

The above 'hint' is appreciated. When I'm not actively installing or working
within the distribution, I forget these little shortcuts. :)

~~~from another poster...

Quote:
True, though one does not need to do a full Slackware installation to
get a perfectly working Slackware system. However, if one chooses to
perform a selective installation, as the OP in this case has done, either
to conserve storage space, or for any other reason, and some parts of
the system fail to function as expected, one should look first at the
packages that were not installed, rather than wonder if the there is a
problem with the OS distribution ...

Point taken. For some reason it didn't occur to me that those libs would be
'within' an app/client, which they, of course, were. (See above about
forgetting those little things...) I was installing this on a very small hd
and trying to conserve space, which of course led to problems.

Before I go, let me say that it is simply refreshing to be in a newsgroup
which still offers sane (no pun intended) discussions, hints, and help
without the flaming which goes on in some I frequent. This is the true
purpose of the usenet. Thanks, again.

....Edwin
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