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jc
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Where's TrueCrypt? |
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Anybody know why TrueCrypt was dropped from the openSUSE repos? It's not
even available in the build service anymore.
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Michael Soibelman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Where's TrueCrypt? |
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jc wrote:
| Quote: | Anybody know why TrueCrypt was dropped from the openSUSE repos? It's not
even available in the build service anymore.
jc
It seems that there is/was some issue with licensing. From |
the 'suser-jengelh' repo you can read this:
This is the source code of truecrypt 4.3a, the last version for Linux
for the time being (truecrypt currently being at version 6.0) that
uses a kernel driver and hence allows for whole-disk encryption and
free choice of filesystem (in other words, you could have just used
dm-crypt instead of truecrypt).
Truecrypt 5.x and above have that functionality removed and only offer
(their own reinvent-the-wheel-implementation of) VFAT.
truecrypt 4.3a was a contemporary version at the time of October 2007
and commonly packed for distributions. The signature of the .src.rpm
indicates that the .tar.gz archive included is original, and hence
compliance with Truecrypt license section II.1 (Redistribution) is
established.
If you want the source for 6.1 go to the homepage:
http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php
and click on the Linux drop-down menu, select OpenSuSE (yes Houghi that
should be openSUSE !) -x86.rpm or OpenSuSE-x64(64-bit).rpm and then click
the Download button...
At least...so it seems...sort of...kind of....maybe ?
Or go to the repo and get 4.3a:
ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/truecrypt |
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jc
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Re: Where's TrueCrypt? |
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Michael Soibelman wrote:
| Quote: | Anybody know why TrueCrypt was dropped from the openSUSE repos? It's not
even available in the build service anymore.
It seems that there is/was some issue with licensing. From
the 'suser-jengelh' repo you can read this:
This is the source code of truecrypt 4.3a, the last version for Linux
for the time being (truecrypt currently being at version 6.0) that
uses a kernel driver and hence allows for whole-disk encryption and
free choice of filesystem (in other words, you could have just used
dm-crypt instead of truecrypt).
Truecrypt 5.x and above have that functionality removed and only offer
(their own reinvent-the-wheel-implementation of) VFAT.
truecrypt 4.3a was a contemporary version at the time of October 2007
and commonly packed for distributions. The signature of the .src.rpm
indicates that the .tar.gz archive included is original, and hence
compliance with Truecrypt license section II.1 (Redistribution) is
established.
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That's interesting. TC was maintained in the official repos as recently
as 6.0a. I don't see any significant changes in the license in 6.1. What
difference does the supported file system make here? TC is useful for
other things beside whole disk encryption.
| Quote: | If you want the source for 6.1 go to the homepage:
http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php
and click on the Linux drop-down menu, select OpenSuSE (yes Houghi that
should be openSUSE !) -x86.rpm or OpenSuSE-x64(64-bit).rpm and then click
the Download button...
At least...so it seems...sort of...kind of....maybe ?
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I'm not sure what it is. The download is a tarball with a binary and no
file extension. Nautilus identifies it as a shell script, and FileRoller
does not recognize it as a valid RPM. The source code might be a better
way to go.
| Quote: | Or go to the repo and get 4.3a:
ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/truecrypt
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houghi
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Where's TrueCrypt? |
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jc wrote:
| Quote: | That's interesting. TC was maintained in the official repos as recently
as 6.0a. I don't see any significant changes in the license in 6.1. What
difference does the supported file system make here? TC is useful for
other things beside whole disk encryption.
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If it is part of the code it can't be used. If you have doubt if this is
correct or not, best open a bugreport, discuss it on the openSUSE
mailinglists or on one of the IRC sessions they have.
Discussing it here will be unfortunatly be useless andn pure academic.
houghi
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David Bolt
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Where's TrueCrypt? |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, houghi wrote:-
| Quote: | jc wrote:
That's interesting. TC was maintained in the official repos as recently
as 6.0a. I don't see any significant changes in the license in 6.1. What
difference does the supported file system make here? TC is useful for
other things beside whole disk encryption.
If it is part of the code it can't be used. If you have doubt if this is
correct or not, best open a bugreport, discuss it on the openSUSE
mailinglists or on one of the IRC sessions they have.
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It's already been mentioned on the buildservice mailing list:
<URL:http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2008-10/msg00055.html>
with the thread here:
<URL:http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-October/000273.html>
cited as the reason for it being removed from the build service. Why it
still hasn't been added to:
<URL:http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List>
is anybody's guess.
| Quote: | Discussing it here will be unfortunatly be useless andn pure academic.
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Until there's a change to the TrueCrypt license, discussing it on the
mailing list(s), IRC, or opening bugs about it, are all going to result
in a simple "there are concerns over the license and so can't/won't be
distributed" response. The same thing has occurred with Fedora[0],
Debian[1], and Ubuntu[2], so I'm not surprised it's happened here.
[0] <URL:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#TrueCrypt>
[1] <URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/06/msg00295.html>
[2] <URL:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/109701>
Regards,
David Bolt
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