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Juha Nieminen
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 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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It seems that for whatever reason Suse and OpenSuse have discontinued
support for graphical versions of nethack (nethack-qt, xnethack...) many
years ago, even though /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE still
mentions them. I can't find any working rpm packages for them for any
modern Suse version.
Do you have any suggestion where or how I could find these? I can't
even find their source so that I could compile them. |
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Michael Soibelman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
| Quote: | It seems that for whatever reason Suse and OpenSuse have discontinued
support for graphical versions of nethack (nethack-qt, xnethack...) many
years ago, even though /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE still
mentions them. I can't find any working rpm packages for them for any
modern Suse version.
Do you have any suggestion where or how I could find these? I can't
even find their source so that I could compile them.
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As the newest version of nethack is 3.4.3 and this is what xnethack is
probably based on...............
This is probably the newest xnethack:
(shift + left click to download directly from link)
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=33&size=760200&name=xnethack-3.4.3-48.1.i586.rpm |
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Michael Soibelman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Michael Soibelman wrote:
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| Quote: | This is probably the newest xnethack:
(shift + left click to download directly from link)
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=33&size=760200&name=xnethack-3.4.3-48.1.i586.rpm |
No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
itself... |
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Michael Soibelman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Michael Soibelman wrote:
| Quote: | Michael Soibelman wrote:
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This is probably the newest xnethack:
(shift + left click to download directly from link)
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=33&size=760200&name=xnethack-3.4.3-48.1.i586.rpm
No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
itself...
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Again no !!!
Those links are no good. So here is a page with several links at the bottom
of the page. I tried the upper most of these and it IS a good download
link...
Sorry ;-)
http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/SuSE/9.2/i586/Amusements/Games/RPG/xnethack-3.4.3-48.1.i586.rpm.760200.html
Of course this is just a front end to nethack so you'll need more.. I'll
see that I get these too and then I'll supply the links. |
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Michael Soibelman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Michael Soibelman wrote:
| Quote: | Michael Soibelman wrote:
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This is probably the newest xnethack:
(shift + left click to download directly from link)
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=33&size=760200&name=xnethack-3.4.3-48.1.i586.rpm
No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
itself...
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Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....
Too much trouble for now...
Good luck buddy. Use Google and chase your own tail... |
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Juha Nieminen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Michael Soibelman <in-the@ether.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....
Too much trouble for now...
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Which is exactly why I'm asking here. I did do the google reasearch... |
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houghi
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
| Quote: | Michael Soibelman <in-the@ether.net> wrote:
Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....
Too much trouble for now...
Which is exactly why I'm asking here. I did do the google reasearch...
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Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
repo:
http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.0/standard/nethack.ymp
http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.0&p=1&q=nethack
or http://tinyurl.com/6jjzcj
houghi
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Juha Nieminen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
repo:
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I know, and I have it installed. I would like the X or QT version,
though.
(In fact, I wouldn't mind the Vulture's or noegnud version, but
trying to get those to compile, or finding a precompiled version for
linux, seemed to be absolutely hopeless.) |
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houghi
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
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houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
repo:
I know, and I have it installed. I would like the X or QT version,
though.
(In fact, I wouldn't mind the Vulture's or noegnud version, but
trying to get those to compile, or finding a precompiled version for
linux, seemed to be absolutely hopeless.)
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I just stated it because Michael said that it was so hard to compile
nethack. I have absolutely 0 time nvested in it, so this is just a wild
guess. Perhaps you could install nethack (and the sources of all that it
wants) and use that as a basis for the compiling of the rest.
That way you already have nethack as that seemed to be a problem as
well.
houghi
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Juha Nieminen
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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I succeeded in installing an old xnethack by putting both the xnethack
and the nethack-common rpms from http://dir.filewatcher.com into a
directory, adding that directory as a repository to yast, and installing
xnethack.
Of course the program doesn't work. After opening a graphical window
and asking the initial data, it just ends with the errors:
Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
Oops...
Program initialization has failed.
Report error to "root".
Dungeon description not valid.
So my original question stands.
I would like to make an additional question: Why has xnethack been
discontinued from OpenSuse? |
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houghi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
| Quote: | I would like to make an additional question: Why has xnethack been
discontinued from OpenSuse?
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Two answers possible
1) Because not enaugh people wanted it
2) Because the makers of the code made it not (easibly) compilable
3) A combination of the above.
A search on google now points to websites that point to Usenet servers
(and show why google sucks big time)
I tried looking for the source to download, but after 5 minutes of
looking via google and via clusty.com all I found where old rpms or
references to SUSE and openSUSE.
From that I conclude that most likely there is no recenct xnethack
anymore. That also means that
/usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE must be updated.
Bug #440906
houghi
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Huibert Bol
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
| Quote: | I succeeded in installing an old xnethack by putting both the xnethack
and the nethack-common rpms from http://dir.filewatcher.com into a
directory, adding that directory as a repository to yast, and installing
xnethack.
Of course the program doesn't work. After opening a graphical window
and asking the initial data, it just ends with the errors:
Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
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On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:
* If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
/usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
windows to load them.
HTH
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Juha Nieminen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Huibert Bol <huibert.bol@quicknet.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:
* If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
/usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
windows to load them.
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But will that get rid of the errors, or only that one warning? |
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Juha Nieminen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | From that I conclude that most likely there is no recenct xnethack
anymore. That also means that
/usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE must be updated.
Bug #440906
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I would really prefer if rather than changing README.SuSE,
xnethack (and/or nethack-qt) would be brought back to life.
At least one person wants it! :P
(Although I like nethack, maybe I'm not retro enough, but
I just can't bear the ascii graphics...) |
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Huibert Bol
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? |
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
| Quote: | Huibert Bol <huibert.bol@quicknet.nl> wrote:
Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:
* If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
/usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
windows to load them.
But will that get rid of the errors, or only that one warning?
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There was an error as well?
| Oops...
| Program initialization has failed.
| Report error to "root".
| Dungeon description not valid.
If nethack can't find it's data files, you need to point the environment
variable NETHACKDIR to the right directory.
You could also try the rpm's from www.nethack.org[1]. The qt one's is
for version 2, so that's unlikely to work, but the X11 installed OK. If
you want the tiled map, you need to add
NetHack.tile_file: x11tiles
to your .Xresources, and
option=windowtype:X11
in your .nethackrc.
[1] http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-linux.html
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